Here’s a interview done by Chazda from GreatStoryBook, from our time at the Frankfurt book fair.

Chazda: I met publishers Agnes and Salem de Bezenac, a very nice couple who runs Kidible and iCharacter Ltd. while at the 2015 Buchmesse in Frankfurt. Each year, they attend the fair, representing and selling their books, making new business contacts and meeting with old friends and associates.

This is my amazing and moving interview with publisher iCharacter.

First Impressions

Not being all that familiar with religious publishers, I scanned the booths for a friendly face. That’s when I met Salem. He invited me to sit down and we just chatted about the industry and about my dad’s manuscript. Pretty soon Agnes joined us – she had been away talking with another publisher.

What struck me immediately about Agnes and Salem was how receptive they were to talking with me. Not all publishers are. During our chat (and our subsequent interview later), I found out Salem is German and that Agnes is French and both have lived in a number of countries.

A Little Background

That globetrotting life experience gives Agnes her broad spectrum of tastes in cuisine and in different cultures. She loves, “Switzerland for its mountainous and lake postcard kind of scenery… Brazil for its jungle wild look, Mexico for its beaches, India for its food, Uganda for people’s smiles and simple acceptance.”

Both love the cuisine from all of these places, and Agnes has learned to cook Thai, Indian and Mexican foods. One of their favorite drinks on a cold morning is hot chicory with a little milk and sugar.

As parents of two kids, having a family was a big aspect of their deciding to write and illustrate books. Agnes says, “I felt called to create things for children. I started creating for my own children, as I didn’t find what I was looking for in the book industry.” As a pre-school teacher, mom and homeschooler, she has great ideas about how to do that. All of them are based on fun learning.

Funny Details

I took their picture – no easy task, as Salem is quite tall and Agnes is a bitty thing (those pictures didn’t turn out – I’m a terrible photographer). When it comes to shoes for Agnes, “…I’m quite short; I do like the heels. My only problem is that my shoe size is in the kids’ section and they rarely have heels. So it takes me a long while to find shoes that I like and that fit me, and don’t look too much like kids’ shoes either. Kind of a problem sometimes.”

Salem jokes that he wears “Poopdodgers. A unique brand of shoes that scans the floor ahead and warns the wearer of any potential unpleasant mounds.” I can think of several towns where shoes like that would come in very handy.

Whenever I interview someone, I always ask one question in particular. It’s always the last question, because I feel there’s usually something I just don’t know to ask. So my last question is, “What question have I not asked that you would like to answer?”

In this case, that question was, “Was there a difficult event in your life that this project came out of?”

What Agnes and Salem had to share really shocked me, made me angry and teary-eyed, and then made me appreciate all the more why they do what they do.

This is what happened…

Agnes: We were living in Mexico for 11 years, where we were involved in creating English and Spanish Christian products for children. But priorities were altered when at 7 am, during my exercise walk close to our house, three masked gunmen grabbed me and threw me into their car.

They hit and punched me repeatedly for the next 45 minutes, as they drove out of the city. I felt deep inside that I should not stop talking about my faith and talking about the mission work we do.

I could not see where we were going, because I was pushed down to the floor of the car, and I had a bag over my head. But after some time I realized that we were driving on a dirt country road. That’s when I started singing out loud to keep myself from panicking.

After about 15 minutes of speeding down the dirt road, the car slowed down a bit and the men said to me, “We’re going to let you go now. But the only reason is because we respect your faith in God.” And with that, they took the jewelry and watch I was wearing and threw me out of the moving car.

The next thing that I can remember is standing on the dirt road, shaking and covered in mud, wondering which direction was civilization.

It took me about 30 minutes of walking until I came to a gas station on the side of a highway, where I was able to phone my husband for help, who was at home with our kids.

As a result of the experience I have some spinal injuries, which still affect me to this day. [My note: This is why Agnes can’t sit too long at the computer, writing. Something she mentioned to me in passing.]

Salem: Our Mexican friends felt mad that their people could do such horrible things, and I personally had to get over thinking about what I would have done if I had been there. We both decided that we would forgive them. Even though these men would not know that we had forgiven them, forgiveness is something that benefits us the most.

Agnes: Ten months later, while my husband was on a filming project in another city, I was at home with our two small children, when four different armed men quietly broke into our house at lunchtime. I could not believe that something was happening to me again. This time I was upset inside, but I had to remain calm for my children’s sake.

They held knives to the children’s throats and demanded that I give them all our money or they were going to take my kids away. We were then locked into the bathroom as they tore through the house and stole the rest of our valuables that they found.

Thankfully our neighbors were very helpful after the ordeal, and helped me with the children and handling the guards and police who arrived afterward.

This second incident affected me much more, because it also involved our children. And I was finding it much more difficult. After the first experience, I didn’t feel safe while out, but now I didn’t even feel safe at home.

Salem: Our first reaction was that we had enough, and to leave the country right away, but we decided that it was not a good time to make that decision in the middle of emotional turmoil, so we waited a week to let our feelings calm down.

There is a healing process that we had to go through from these two events. We had the option of pursuing the criminals, but we decided that using our energy to move ahead with our lives and projects was much more beneficial.

Yes, we did lose most of our valuables, and to this day we wish we still had some of them for our projects, but in the end, it’s just stuff. We had our lives, and that was most important.

Tragedy is not replaced by joy; it is turned into joy. And we came to realize that peace and satisfaction don’t come from replacing the things we lost, but from the healing process of forgiveness and change of priorities.

Agnes: It’s human nature to feel like getting revenge, but our character has grown so much more than if we had decided not to forgive. Through this whole ordeal, it most of all realigned our priorities and gave us even more of a burden and desire to make good moral material for children.

You can read more about their books, their work, and purchase books and coloring books from them directly. Agnes and Salem publish 10-12 titles per year.

Keep creating, no matter what.